Forums for the Grievance Family

over the next few weeks we are going to be looking at all of the below info.. We are still gathering numbers and seeing what needs to be done for our goal of getting heroic Archie killed before the end of this Xpack.

Heroic Upper HFC raiding
With going into upper heroics we are currently looking at having some Progression numbers, The reason for this is because the upper tier is a lot harder then the lower tier. We are always going to bring who we have on that is on the raid roster as well as meet the min req for our heroic raiding. If you dont know what that is please read the raid information rules. We will be attempting any where from 2 - 3 attempts on any Progression boss but if we are getting no were we will be removing people from the raid.

When we remove a person or persons from the raid we need you to remember that we are not doing it to make you feel bad. We are not doing this because we want to. But we need to do this because we need to see what it takes to get Progression raiding done. We will always bring a person back after we have downed a boss to try on the next boss. We will always bring you in next Week or day for more attempts on the boss.

We cant progress further in the upper tier with out everyone understanding that we will always get you back into the raid. But it might take a week or 2. Please always ask for help we are here to help you and our members are always willing to help you out as well.

Please dont take offense to this it could be one of the following reasons.

Low DPS
We are currently looking to have a set min req DPS cap of 35k - 45k (Fight to Fight Bases)

Low Damage Done
We are currently looking to have a set min req Damage Done cap of 9 - 12 Million. What this number means is each person has a set number of health for if there in there. A boss has 500 000 000 Health and if you are removed from the fight he/she may drop to 492 000 000.

Poor Raid Awareness
This is something each raider needs to work on.. Even my self. We are not perfect, we are not machines. But we are doing heroics... and the upper tier at that. We need to get it together. If you are removed for this reason its in result of always standing in fire (or anything for that matter) and taxing the healers. Dying every pull. Not doing what is asked by the raid leader. Could also be the result of having a bad night. We all get them some times.

Healers
Only you will know if your doing poorly. Please be honest when you are. But again if your Raid awareness is poor you will be asked to sit out for the boss fight. Please work on a DPS spec. As we progress through our raids and the healing gets easier we will be asking our heals to switch to a DPS spec. This is in result that we can push bosses faster and have the extra DPS/Dmg done.

Note: When we remove a DPS we look at 3 things. DPS - Dmg Done - Raid Awareness. If some one is doing 80k DPS 4mill dmg done and dies everyfight... hate to say it but your prob getting removed. If some one is doing 35k DPS - 12 mill Dmg done.. and staying alive the whole fight.. then your prob going to stay. if our healers are struggling to keep ppl alive we are going to have to remove ppl.

Tanks
Proper understanding on Taunting, Working with other tank to better understand bosses, Having good raid awareness and know were Adds are and if there attack other members of the raid. Proper use of defensive cool when harder hits are coming to aid in healing done on you.

If you are performing under these numbers please talk to the any officer or check out the raid roster and find a person that plays the same class as you. We are always willing to help people out where needed.

If you have any questions or concerns please talk to any of the officers.

When I'm not on baby patrol I can help people get quicker queues for their valor farming or tank mythic runs to help fill the gear gaps people might have. Granted baby duty is most times that aren't raids.

Would it be possible to give us the new bosses that we will be working on before we raid? I would like ample time to research the fights so that I can get an understanding of the mechanics, and look up class tips and tricks.

A day or two in advance would be great! Maybe add the bosses we will be working on the in-game calendar. I would research them all but that's a lot of information to take in all at once.

Having recently returned to the game, I am overwhelmingly behind everyone else.

Progression bosses are all the upper tier of heroic...

Xhul
Iskar
Soc

is what we have done this far...

Tyrant
Fel lord
Manny
Archie

Would be next.

Based on the heroic Soc fight, because I had to leave right before you guys started on Tyrant, I think we can do mythic HFC so we can experience everything before Legion and the invasion event. Unfort, there is a small chance on the Archie mount, but at least the nerf will allow even us (GASP) to see mythic content. We could go so far and do BRF mythic since it should be facerollable.

Did BRF get the nerf yet?

Mythic sounds like an option, but we'd have to limit it to 20 people, and make sure we have Exorsus installed for the Kormrok puddle assignments.

I'm in if everyone else is!

I think the only thing that got nerfed was HFC as per the patch notes

BRF and Highmaul got their demoralize nerfs in 6.4.2.

Mythics got a 20% nerf, and HFC got the demoralize nerf this patch.